crawler loader

kevencyr · Post by **kevencyr** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:28 am

just got this crawler loader, i think its a 420, look a lot like my 420 crawler, was just wandering if the bucket arm kit have a value, want use it but need to know if it worth it to paint it and sell it. all i got is the framing, no cylinder and no bucket as of today. bucket should come but not holding my breath. any idea of the value. thanks

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:20 pm

Pictures would help a lot.
If it's a John Deere model 90 it may be worth something to someone?

kevencyr · Post by **kevencyr** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:44 pm

i can i put picture on here, sorry, i'm to this stuff. thanks

Post by **Lavoy** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:50 pm

As a general rule, loaders have little value.
Lavoy

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:53 pm

I'm still kinda green at sharing photos here to, I know you need to put them in a photo sharing sight like photobucket and then cut and paste them here.

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:53 pm

Hi,

Just upload to any photo sharing site and post the link. That is easier than trying to get em to display for most folks....

Stan

kevencyr · Post by **kevencyr** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:16 pm

http://postimg.org/image/cbc2e4xz3/
http://postimg.org/image/g8zc3jksf/

hope this will work and help

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:24 pm

Hi,

Yep. I see them ok.

Stan

shinnery · Post by **shinnery** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:01 am

Interesting, one two bolt chain and one four bolt chain and neither are flat pads like you would expect on a loader. AFAIK four bolt chains started late in the life of 440ICs. I also think the chains are on backwards.
Bryce

kevencyr · Post by **kevencyr** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:01 am

tracks could be reversed, got that things out of the dirt and trees, been there for a long time i guess. probably the guy didn,t know. the four bolts one look like its been installed improperly, can only place 2 bolts in the holes.
anyway, i just notice a data plate on my loader arm assembly. its a model 90. does it have a value, got a few people here that want it. would like to know if its worth it selling that part. thanks

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:43 pm

Hi,

Yes, you want the grousers facing forward when looking at them from the operating position. The grousers want to hit the ground, then the rest of the pad.

And, one does not want grousers with a loader. Tough on the rollers due to the much greater weight of a loaded bucket plus counter weights. Not that you have counterweights. Nor, much grouser height left anyway.

The 4-bolt pads are on a 2-bolt rail, so that is another odd thing. But, as it is they might work ok. I am unsure of just how they might interfere with themselves as the thing moves. They are not centered properly on the links. I don't know for sure, never having seen a machine with 4-bolt pads on 2-bolt rails before.....

There is supposed to be a pad overlap when on the ground to keep dirt and stones out of the roller area. Then, that overlap opens up as they come around the mountain, meaning the sprocket and front idler. There is also some space for pinching together and binding as they ride over the top. But as long as they don't make a bunch of popping noise, which would indicate they are binding up, that ought to be OK, too.

But, hey!, I have seen lots worse machines coming out of the weeds than that one looks to be.

Stan

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:46 pm

Hi,

Yes, you want the grousers facing forward when looking at them from the operating position. The grousers want to hit the ground, then the rest of the pad.

And, one does not want grousers with a loader. Tough on the rollers due to the much greater weight of a loaded bucket plus counter weights. Not that you have counterweights. Nor, much grouser height left anyway.

The 4-bolt pads are on 2-bolt rails, so that is another odd thing. But, as it is they might work ok. I am unsure of just how they might interfere with themselves as the thing moves. I don't know for sure, never having seen a machine with 4-bolt pads on 2-bolt rails before.....

There is supposed to be a pad overlap when on the ground to keep dirt and stones out of the roller area. Then, that overlap opens up as they come around the mountain, meaning the sprocket and front idler. There is also some space for pinching together and binding as they ride over the top. But as long as they don't make a bunch of popping noise, which would indicate they are binding up, that ought to be OK, too.

But, hey!, I have seen lots worse machines coming out of the weeds than that one looks to be.

Stan

kevencyr · Post by **kevencyr** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:20 pm

that machine is going into parts anyway, got a 420 in the garage right now, will keep all the good parts, send the rest to the metal junk and will tried to sell what is good and no use for my 420.

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:15 am

Looks like it has a 5 speed trans... Did the 420's use a 5 speed? gregjo1948

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:37 am

Hi,

Yup. Sure did. And direction reversers too.

Stan

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