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Secondary SN Location

Post by panicbutton » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:12 pm

Is tehre another location for serial number on a 350 besides the tag on the cab? I have conflicting numbers between the motor year and the sn tag, about 10 years. I think the cab might have been replaced by the condition of the ROP on a side and a bent lever. I really don't want to crawl under and see if it has wet or dry clutches...

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Re: Secondary SN Location

Post by jdemaris » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:07 am

panicbutton wrote:Is tehre another location for serial number on a 350 besides the tag on the cab? I have conflicting numbers between the motor year and the sn tag, about 10 years. I think the cab might have been replaced by the condition of the ROP on a side and a bent lever. I really don't want to crawl under and see if it has wet or dry clutches...

Thanks-
If you want to see if it has wet clutches, all you have to do is pull up the seat and look down. If the steering levers are hooked to twin hydraulic conrol valve spools - then it's a C series or newer with wet clutched. If a B or older with dry cluthes, the steering linkage hooks to levers on the steering-clutch housings.

Just be careful NOT to confuse power-steering assist cylinders - with wet-clutch style hydraulic control valves.

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Post by panicbutton » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:22 pm

With the seat removed, I can see 2 cyclinders. I'm thinking these are the power steering cyclinders. Trying to get to the band/clutch compartments with the 4 screws is nearly impossible with all the hydraulic hoses.

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Post by jdemaris » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:06 am

panicbutton wrote:With the seat removed, I can see 2 cyclinders. I'm thinking these are the power steering cyclinders. Trying to get to the band/clutch compartments with the 4 screws is nearly impossible with all the hydraulic hoses.
If those cylinders connect, with linkage, to the steering clutch housings - then it has dry clutches. A wet clutch machine has no connection. Steering levers attach to the the little twin-hydraulic spool pack and that's the end of the line. The rest is just hydraulic pipes.

Also, a wet-clutch machine has bung-plugs on each inspection cover like 55 gallon steel drums use. Dry clutch machines don't have these plugs.

About serial #s, many Deere tractors and crawlers DO have a second set of numbers hidden inside certain castings. They are used to ID stolen machines. I had to pull a few apart for the State Police, for evidence purposes. Not sure when Deere started doing that, but I know they had it by the early 80s.

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Post by panicbutton » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:54 pm

I'm thinking it's a B by the way the clutch covers. I looked at teh parts manual and the B's & C's are alot differednt. Mine are the square 4 bolt covers.

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