440ICD with #95 Hoe

RedDirt · Post by **RedDirt** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:59 pm

I'm looking at a 1960 440ICD with what appears and is represented as a #95 backhoe and an 831 loader. It seems like a big hoe for that tractor but it really acts like it works very well.

I'm new here and really have read for hours on this site. My thanks to all that contribute to this great knowledge base. I'm looking for a 440ICD with 831 Loader for work on my few acres, digging a small pond moving some dirt and rocks for landscape and digging holes for fruit tree planting.

I found a possible purchase. The engine seems to change speed up and down "seeking" perhaps when at lower to mid RPM smooths out and runs steady at higher rpms. Anyone know the likely suspects on this? Is it a bad sign?

Is a #95 backhoe and 440icd 831 loader combination common? Useful? Safe? Anyone have one like this with advice?

It starts a little reluctantly, runs without smoke when warmed up. Track pins are very round. Has a reverser that works good, steers good clutches and brakes work good. Cosmetically it isn't bad at 20' but up close it looks 50 years old (it is). The hoe looks much cleaner and newer no leaks and has the rotary donut style swing hydraulics.

Any ideas on the value of the 440ICD?
Any ideas on the value of the #95 backhoe?

Mark Birdeau · Post by **Mark Birdeau** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm

RedDirt, I can't help you much, but I'll try a little. As to the seeking"as you put it, mine does the same thing and I don't think it is any thing to worry about. Also for the most part you will be operating at full throttle so it shouldn't be a problem. As far as the back hoe goes I can't help as to weather it is the right model or size but, I always thought that 440's,1010's and 350's are a little small for a back hoe. Not that they can't handle it but I believe the final drives are to light to handle that much extra weight. They tend to go through bearings faster. I don't know about the loader at all but it also could be harder on idler and roller bushings because of the weight. Mark:

JD440ICD2006 · Post by **JD440ICD2006** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:32 pm

Based on some original literature from JD that I have, only the #50 and #51 backhoes were originally available on the 440 crawlers. One of those models is a center pivot, the other is actually adjustable in that you can slide the entire unit from one side to the other. Very handy for digging against a building.
Hope this helps.

Post by **Lavoy** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:15 am

95 is a later hoe, 350/450 time frame.
Lavoy

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:14 am

I have a Model 50 backhoe attachment for my 2010, and I can tell you that it puts a lot of weight on the sprockets, and thus the final drives. Even though the backhoe would help with counterbalancing and get me out when I am stuck in mud, I have been detaching it when doing loader work because it is heavy enoughto cause significant pressure and wear on the sprockets.I have to imagine it is even worse for the smaller models like a 440 or 1010, much less having the slightly heavier Model 95 on them.

BTW, the Model 50 is the center of tractor backhoe model and the Model 51 is the slider backhoe model. Wish I had the 51 instead of the 50- anyone want to trade?

old-larry · Post by **old-larry** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:09 pm

A lot of those old jimmy diesels would do the "governor hunting" we always called it. It's nothing to worry about. The rack could be a little out of adjustment.

Larry

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