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Stan Disbrow
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri May 28, 2010 7:19 am

Hi,

Someone that thought about the amount of time the deck & sleeve idea would save on the factory floor, where every second is equal to a whole pile of money.

I bet 10 million bucks that this is where the idea came from, and that it did save them whole bags full of dough on the factory floor - and then ate three times that amount later on in warranty costs.

That would explain the short-lived nature of the idea.

I spent decades in engineering being the guy that had to deal with the great ideas in development that went out the front door then coming in through the back door to bite us on the butt, warranty cost wise. I know that kind if idea when I see it, no matter where, or what, such an idea was used in! :P

What's fun is to partake of the cake & ice cream party when upper management is celebrating the money they are saving, and then later see the long, long faces when reality winds up proving that they're actually losing their collective shirts in the end. Priceless!

Hey! We could do a commercial where we list the idea and the cost savings, followed by the warranty costs and end it with 'hindsight: priceless'.

Oh. Wait. Someone is already doing something like that! :P

later!

Stan
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zippy1wood
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well said

Post by zippy1wood » Fri May 28, 2010 7:41 am

you hit that on the nose! I have been a mechanic most of my life
and would like to see some white jackets :lol: reach some of these parts
they bury on these cars and trucks.

sounds kind of like a toyota problem

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Post by Lavoy » Fri May 28, 2010 10:40 am

Actually the deck sleeve design comes out of necessity for the combines. A few of the combines used this engine, and it was determined that it would be easier to remove the deck sleeve and rebuild the engine in place rather than trying to hoist the engine and associated drive component down from on top of a combine. Keep in mind, in the 60's, this might have been done in the field, the farmers yard, or at a dealership that did not have hoists tall enough to get combines under.
Not quite the same, but even today, this is a consideration. On the newer combines, there is an access plate under the engine. You remove this plate, and while laying on the straw walkers, you can put in engine bearings. I have spent more than a few hours laying on straw walkers, and it sucks, but it can be done.
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